Amen Corner and Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich Tour:
Fri 6/06/69 Amen Corner Tour: City Hall, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
June 1969 Amen Corner Tour: Winter Gardens, Bournemouth, Hampshire, England
June 1969 Amen Corner Tour: Southampton, Hampshire, England
June 1969 Amen Corner Tour: Guildhall, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
June 1969 Amen Corner Tour: Sophia Gardens, Cardiff, Wales
One-Week Radio Sessions
9-13 June 69 Dave Cash Radio Programme, BBC Radio One, London, England (5:15-7:30 pm)
23-27 June 69 Tommy Vance On Radio One, BBC Radio One, London, England
30 June-4 July Dave Cash Radio Programme, BBC Radio One, London, England (5:15-7:30 pm)
Union Rowing Club, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich
City Hall, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Amen Corner and Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich
NME n°1169 pages 8-9: Dave Dee in Shakespeare
Page 12: Dave Dee hits at pop’s pseudo intellectuals – Gordon Coxhill
‘Pop needs a kick up the backside’
After a quick visit to the Radio 1 Club in London’s Lower Regent Street to sign autographs and listen to their latest opus, “Snake In The Grass,” winging its way over the airways, Dave Dee was speeding northwards to Golders Green for an appearance on the “Basil Brush” Show.
I sat with Dave, who now boasts trendy yellow streaks in his hair, and listened to the former policeman stating his views on the pop business today.
“It’s in a bloody awful state,” Dave proclaimed, “and it needs a hard kick up the backside but quickly. It’s partly because nobody new has come along to capture everybody’s imagination. But more than that; it’s because so many people are going out of their way to knock the whole scene and bring it to its knees.
“Look at the ‘All My Loving’ show which was repeated the other night. Now Tony Palmer produced a damn good film which made for good television and caused a bit of controversy. But it hasn’t done the business any good. What it tried to prove was that pop music and violence were never far apart.
“That’s not true and Tony Palmer knows it! For every group like the Who, who do smash up their instruments on stage, there are thousands of groups who don’t.
“And what it had to do with the war in Vietnam, I just don’t know. It’s the same with the national newspapers. They helped to build up the pop business into the massive money spinner it is today and naturally the people in it are more than grateful. But now, it seems all the papers want to do is knock it all down again. Take John Lennon as an example.
“A few years back, he was a lovable mop top, who was helping our exports. The Queen gave him an MBE and even Harold Wilson had his picture taken with the Beatles. Now, because he has got divorced and remarried to a Japanese girl, has grown his hair long and talks of peace, he’s labelled as some kind of nut.
“The papers pounce on him whenever they can and try to make him look a prize idiot. He passed me the other morning in his white Rolls, with a huge TV aerial on the top.
“John Lennon an idiot? They’ve got to be joking; he’s brilliant!
“But what I can’t understand are the people who want to destroy something they have helped to build. I think pop music is something worthwhile. Paul McCartney said pop is the classical music of today. I don’t think I would go that far, but it is a valid form of entertainment – and make no mistake, that’s all it is, entertainment.
“Other people who do the business no good at all are the pseudo intellectuals who try to make reasons and excuse for pop. They try to lift it on to a higher level than it really is. They make it sound so serious and boring!
“Anyway, that’s why I think pop is in a bit of a depressing way at the moment. What shall we talk about next?”
I asked about Dave, Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich’s latest hit. Had there been an autopsy on “Don Juan” ?
“Let’s get it straight about ‘Don Juan’ and ‘Wreck Of The Antoinette’,” Dave said.
“They weren’t flops at all. I agree that by our standards, they were less successful than previous records, but I can think of hundreds of singers and groups who would give their right arms to be No. 21 in the charts. I am never over-confident when a new single is released, but I can truthfully say that I am not unduly worried about the way our records are going.
“Nor do I think it is necessary to go into long reasons why the last two weren’t big hits. They were over-produced. I think the songs were as good as ever, but they were getting too complicated.
” ‘Snake’ is a return to simplicity, and I’m sure it’s going to do well,” he said firmly.
Did Dave wish “Snake” had been released two records ago to avoid spoiling their fine Top 10 record? ” Well, looking at it like that, I suppose we would, but we haven’t got a computer which tells us which records are going to do very well. You can never tell until the kids buy or don’t buy the records.
“By the law of averages, the longer you go on having monster after monster, the more chance you’ve got of falling down eventually. Now, we know how much our fans can stand of one type of song, so we’ve changed.”
The future for the group is very much the same as the present and the past; ballrooms, clubs, cabaret, TV, trips to the Continent and starting it all over again, but Dave isn’t complaining.
“It’s the same things over and over again, but as long as it brings in money and we’re happy doing it, why should we stop? We are not going to kick it in the teeth, when the things we’ve been doing for the past three years have been so rewarding.”
Record Mirror page 4: “I saw John Lennon’s Rolls the other day and thought of going up to it and smashing a nail into the side and say: ‘what should my feelings be’?” – says Dozy of Dave Dee & Co….
Once I’ve got enough money together, I’ll pack up with the group and start my own business and then say “thank you very much,” said Dozy, of Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch.
Did he think groups were finished? “Let’s face it, groups like Manfred Mann are only together as a group for recording purposes – they are each going their own separate ways as individuals, but we have been going just as long as they have and have made just as many hit records. But the thing is we couldn’t afford to give up the idea of touring.
“Although I’d like to pack it in, this doesn’t mean to say I’m in the record business for the money, because I really enjoy it. But I must say I get fed up with touring and also very tired with it. You can leap about all over the place. For example, the other week we did a date in Sweden and then in the evening we had a gig in Blackpool.”
Dozy doesn’t often get very much in print but this is because people often don’t ask him the right questions. “Some people think I’m a bit dumb,” he said, “but if they asked me something, I would have plenty to say.” If you take the trouble to ask, then you will find he is very lucid.
PROGRESSIVE MUSIC – RUBBISH!
“I believe you can experiment, but I don’t like progressive music as on a whole, to me, it’s rubbish,” Dozy explained. “The Beatles are about the only group who can do anything progressive which means anything to me.
“Talking about the Beatles, I saw John Lennon’s white Rolls-Royce the other day and thought of going up to it and smashing a nail into the side and saying: ‘what should my feelings be?’ to him. We were in our group van at the time.” Maybe John would have a definite answer to that question.
“Going back to experimentation,” continued Dozy, “I think people want to hear songs they can whistle to – not have to figure out what it’s all about. They don’t want to have to come back in three years’ time and then say: ‘I think I know what you’re trying to do.’ Ninety per cent of the people in this country like simple music and if you go over their heads, then you’re dead. I believe that pop music should be something simple with a beat.”
What did Dozy think of the current pop scene?
“Today the scene is very varied,” Dozy replied. “We’ve still got Cliff Richard, the clean-living guy. Then you’ve got the dirty side of pop, like the Doors with their lead singer Jim Morrison fornicating all over the place. Then you have the Mothers Of Invention as well. It boils down to the good and the bad and the bad becomes ugly. In the old days the guys in groups used to stuff a handkerchief or a bit of pipe down their trousers but it has become too blatant nowadays.
“Sex is something you’re supposed to keep to yourself, but there are so many people talking about it that it doesn’t become the same thing.”
NEVER PLAY BLUES
I asked Dozy if the group would ever play any other form of music, such as blues.
“No, we’d never play blues because you’ve got to have a feel,” he replied. “I could play blues, but the rest of the group don’t think that way. Dave likes general music, Mick likes big bands, Titch likes music in general and Beaky likes fishing – he’s mad on it. When I’m home, I often sit and
play blues on my guitar; I find it relaxes me.
“The trouble with people playing blues today is that what they play isn’t raw anymore – it’s all amplified. To my mind to be a blues player you’ve got to be solo – you don’t need amplifiers to get it across. One of the troubles with a lot of the blues bands is the people who follow them. What I mean is you get hippies who find a new blues band which nobody has heard of and they rave about it. If the band happens to get a hit record, then the hippies don’t wan’t to know any more and they’ll go in search of another one. With hippies, if they can’t understand anything, they think it’s great.”
After having a go at hippies, what did Dozy think of the underground groups?
“I think underground groups should be underground – six feet underground,” Dozy said, with a glower on his face. “I haven’t any time for them. The majority of underground groups can only play at one sort of venue, whereas we are compatible playing anywhere. We can play ballrooms, cabaret, on stage and, in fact, anywhere at all.
“Going back to the hippies and also the underground scene – when we were in the States, we went to Greenwich village and there were plenty of hippies about. We had our photographer with us and they were just like animals. They said to the guy: ‘give us a cigarette or we’ll smash your camera.’ They were lovely people!”
Asked what would be the next trend in pop music, Dozy replied: “I think the space thing will have a big effect on pop and starts a whole new trend. I’ve got a thing about space and science-fiction and have had a theory for some time. I don’t think it’s a question of superior beings attacking us as is the case with many s-f books. Why couldn’t we be the superior beings and attack people on other planets?”
Maybe Apollo 11 will give us the answer.
Manfred Mann split
The group, whose origins go back to Portsmouth and Southampton, Hampshire, became Manfred Mann in March 1963, around the same time Dave Dee & The Bostons had their definitive lineup with the arrival of Mick Wilson. Both groups were united on the Fontana label in July 1966. Manfred Mann and Dave Dee announce their parting within a month of each other.
Dreamland, Margate, Kent, England
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich
A Bravo correspondant meets them that day for a report printed in Bravo n°33
9-13 June 69
Radio Show: Dave Cash Radio Programme, BBC Radio One, London, England (5:15-7:30 pm)
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich guest throughout the week
NME n°1170 page 7: Pop isn’t dying, not when Amen Corner and Dave Dee get together
by Richard Green
Radio Show: Radio One Club, BBC Radio One, London, England (12:00 noon-1:55 pm)
Live midday show with Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich
TV Show: Set ‘em up Joe, London Weekend Television, London, England [Broadcast on 21/06/69]
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich record their contribution to the forthcoming show
Single release: Harmony Grass – First Time Loving / What A Groovy Day (RCA 1828)
Harmony Grass were Tony Rivers (vo), Tony Ferguson (gt), Kenny Rowe (vo), Ray Brown (bs), Tom Marshall (rh) and Bill Castle (dr), previewing a track from the forthcoming Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich “Together” album
Travel to Belgium
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich fly to Brussels for a Belgian TV date
First International Pop Event, Deurne Arena, Antwerp, Belgium
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich, Chicken Shack, Fleetwood Mac, Jess and James, The Nice, The Pebbles, Procol Harum, Freedom, Family, Yes and Wallace Collection
Jess and James, The Pebbles and Wallace Collection are three groups from Belgium
TV Performance: Set ‘em up Joe, London Weekend Television, London, England (6:50 pm)
Hosted by Joe Brown: Snake In The Grass (Black & White/Lip-Sync) [Recorded on 19/06/69]
With Scott Walker: Nights of Cincinatti, Françoise Hardy: It Hurts to Say Goodbye, Bobby Vee
23-27 June 69
Radio Show: TV On Radio One, BBC Radio One, London, England
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich with T.V., aka Tommy Vance
Merton College, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich
BBC Radio Session: Tony Brandon Show [Broadcast on 7/07/69]
Harmony Grass: Baby You Come Rolling Across My Mind, First Time Lovin’ (Live Performance)
TV Performance: Tous en Scène, ORTF, Antenne culturelle du Kremlin Bicêtre, France
The Wreck Of The Antoinette / Don Juan (Colour/Live)
with The Moody Blues: Nights In White Satin, Ride My See Saw, Never Comes The Day, Legend Of A Mind; Les Charlots: Hey Max, On n’est pas là pour se faire engueuler; Michel Polnareff: Tous les bateaux tous les oiseaux, Tout tout pour ma chérie, J’ai du chagrin Marie, Ame caline; Pia Colombo; Tyrannosaurus Rex: Salamanda Palaganda; Marie Laforêt: La tendresse
Fabulous 208: Cover Dave Dee
Would You Still Love Him If He Wasn’t Famous Featuring Tony Prince, Andy [Fairweather]-Low, Peter Sarstedt, Dave Dee, Chip Hawkes And Mike Rossi
Would you love your favourite pop star if he was a down and out, if he had no money to take you out, if he didn’t have a big car to drive you around in ?
If he didn’t wear expensive clothes, or get up on a stage and sing his heart out ? Well, would you ? This week we show you the other side of your fave pop people and give you a picture of them as they might have been if they hadn’t made the grade in the pop world.
So see for yourself.
Would you still love them if ….
Dave used to be a copper – or policeman if you like. “I got around thirteen pounds a week,” he said, “just enough to go out to the pub sometimes and go to a local dance.” Dave liked the job but added: “I wasn’t cut out to be a policeman !”
It’s a different story now of course – Dave has a super house in Salisbury and runs his own Rolls-Royce. But would you still have loved him if he’d been an ordinary policeman ?
The 64,000 dollar question
Dave Dee admits the age-old question is dead difficult to answer, but as usual he gives his honest opinions.
My postman’s gone round-shouldered through ‘staggering along with all the mail you send me, and he’s taken to groaning rathor than greeting me with a cheery good morninq. But that’s his hard luck. I’m just delighted that you keep the letters a-rolling so this week I’ll deal with a mixed bag of your comments and queries.
Heres’s a gal named Diane, no address given: “I share a flat with three other girls and I’m the only virgin among us. I think a person should stay a virgin until the day that person gets married. But the crowd I go about with all laugh at my point of view. Am I just being selfish, or is it just old-fashioned common-sense?”
Diane, love, this is an age-old question and it’s dead difficult for me to answer. Personally I would not be worried or upset if the girl I married was not a virgin, but I Would be if she had been a right old sleep-around character. But I’ll say this: I admire you for your principles and urge you to stick by them. Don’t worry at all about the people who laugh at you. It’s your life, not theirs.
A quickie from Margaret, of Lowestoft, Suffolk: “What toothpaste do you use and What after-shave?” Easy: Signal or MacLean’s peppermint-flavoured and the after-shave is some acqua do cologne, by
Silvestri Victor. Turns the birds on, so they tell me!
Here’s a letter signed S.C., from Exeter: “Your column on birdwatching gave me the impression that you are Victorian in your attitude to unisex clothes. You want to keep us girls feminine and you lot wear the trousers. Today, girls are on the same level as men – just think what would happen if we left the car factories, Parliament and so on. Accept the fact that we’re equal in status and in clothes. Skirts on men, no; but trousers on girls, yes!”
Oh, come off it S.C.! My point has nothing to do with the equality of women. They are equal in most things. I just said that I didn’t fancy birds who wear trousers or culottes. What’s the first thing that attracts me to a girl? Something physical, looks, appearance. I don’t dig trousers. Simple as that. Surely we’re not having that suffragette bit all over again, are we?
Sur Crossland of Sheffield asks what I think of the groups who get our business a bad name by smashing up hotel rooms and dressing-rooms and so on. She thinks they ouqht to be banned once and for all. Sue I’m with you. There’s no sense in this wanton destruction, and we’ve had experience of hotels not being keen to take us in because they’ve had a bad time from some of the wreckers. It’s futile and downright stupid.
Julie Cullen, of Worthing, writes: “What do you think of that fellow who was told he’d get the sack from his factory unless he had his hair cut? What’s the difference between girls having long hair and boys?” Well, Julie, there are two ways of looking at this problem.
At first sight I’d say it was ridiculous – if the bloke is a good worker and does his job, it seems petty to worry about his hair.
But it could be that it’s a matter of safety. Could be that he worked with machinery that could trap his tresses and scalp him. Even so, there’s a lot of rubbish talked about boys with long hair. Some supersnides seem to regard it as a sort of badge which proclaims: “I Am A Ruffian”.
There are one or two of the cabaret clubs, for instance, which dare to lay down a rule: “Long hair – no admittance’”. Some people make a career out of heinq bigoted.
And now a curtain closer of a letter which is pretty dreadful really.
“Three Scared Girls” write. “We have a teacher in our school, Mr. X., who keeps on putting his arm round us and undoing our bras. When we go into his class room he sits so he can look up our skirts. Don’t tell us to jump out the window, ‘cos it’s a long jump.”
I could be funny, or try to be, and say you should tell him that National Groping Week has been abolished, but it’s obviously a serious matter. You simply lust pick the right time and tell him that he either stops or you will go and report him to the headmaster. It’s a very serious allegation to make about a schoolmaster and he’d certainly be sacked and probably never get another job.
But don’t let it go on. And if, after you “warn” him, he starts retaliating by giving you a hard time – well, he’s obviously a snake and deserves to be reported. Be cool and calm when you tell him off, but also be firm.
Address your letters to Dave, c/o FAB-208, Fleetway House, Farringdon Street, London E.C.4 (Please do NOT enclose a stamped, addressed envelope as Dave won’t be able to answer any letters through the post, though he will read every one and discuss some in his column.)
TV Performance: Beat-Club 44, ARD Radio Bremen, Bremen, Deutschland (Lip-Sync)
Hosted by Uschi Nerke & Dave Lee Travis (4:15-5:15 pm)
Beat-Club News: The Gun & Tremeloes interview in the Melody Maker office (Hello World); Caravan: Place Of My Own; Brian Poole & the Seychelles: Send Her To Me; The Flirtations: What’s Good About Goodbye; Keef Hartley: Waiting Around; Marsha Hunt: Walk On Gilded Splinters; Procol Harum: A Salty Dog; Richie Havens: Lady Madonna; Britain’s Top 7; Beat-Club News: Blind Faith in Hyde Park, New Rolling Stone Mick Taylor; The Searchers: Shoot Him Up; Family Dogg: A Way Of Life; Three Dog Night: One; Amen Corner: Hello Suzie; Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich: Snake In The Grass; Ohio Express: Mercy
Most of the performances (including Dave Dee’s) were cut short to cram as many artists as possible in 60 minutes – 14 acts instead of the usual 13.
Glen Ballroom, Llanelly, Monmouthshire, Wales
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich
30 June-4 July
Radio Show: Dave Cash Radio Programme, BBC Radio One, London, England (5:15-7:30 pm)
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich appear a second time on the programme this month
TV Performance: What Ever Next, BBC Television, London, England
Theater: “The Tempest” by William Shakespeare – Dave Dee is Caliban
DAVE DEE is to play Caliban, the monster from Shakespeare’s The Tempest, in BBC-TV’s What Ever Next series. He has already recorded it and it will be screened around the end of June.